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Hate Mail of the Week (II): “Elitist S***Head”
By Kyle | April 16, 2008
I had pretty much already forgotten the break-dancin’ documentary “Planet B-Boy,” about a bunch of Korean and Japanese gangsta group dancers competing for a prize of approximately $12.95. (See my review here.) It’s climbed the charts all the way to a US gross of $191,000. But I see a website affiliated with the movie is loaded for bear, with correspondents calling me “an elitist s***head” and so forth. (”I’mma hire a hitman” says one semiliterate would-be tough guy, no doubt spinning around on his little skull as we speak, though I have not gotten even one e-mail or letter relating to this vanishingly obscure film-like piece of work.)
The comments are funnier than anything I wrote, so check ‘em out. B-Boys: it’s on, yo! Come and sho yo mad skillz in front of my crib. I’ll be sure to ignore you the same way I do the dancers impressing tourists in the Times Square subway station or the baggy-pantsers at Columbus Circle.
April 16th, 2008 at 11:54 pm
Nothing you talk about has anything whatever to do with the art or craft of film.
You go out of your way to bear-bait, but why bother? If you believe Shakespeare is elsewhere, why linger with the bears?
You go out of your way to condescend to a small, privately financed doc. Why?
A jester who goes out of his way to skip the king’s show and throw mud at the poor is likely a poor jester. In both senses.
April 17th, 2008 at 12:08 am
Nah, we just need to ruin the rest of his living life by burning every book he publishes from now on, and break around the burning heap as a celebration.
He’ll be sorry he ever insulted us, the BBoy’s!
This kills me…
April 17th, 2008 at 12:39 am
Kyle, this is Benson Lee, the director of Planet b-boy. I read your review of my film and I had no problem with your opinion since you write for the Post. But now that you’re attacking an entire culture based on the prize money of one event, and made fun of our film based on our box office gross, I now realize that you’re not a real critic. I also don’t consider you as an elitist. You’re simply just a tabloid writer who looks for opportunities to sensationalize and bash people to get attention. How controversial! Yawn….
April 17th, 2008 at 12:45 am
The director noticed your post:
http://www.bboy.org/forums/956517-post23.html
Apparantly, you’re a racist.
April 17th, 2008 at 12:50 am
It’s odd, isn’t it? A link to here was posted at that forum oven an hour ago, and nobody has come over here to make abusive comments yet.
Does that mean that BBoys are more polite than classic rock fans?
April 17th, 2008 at 2:55 am
Hmmm, miscellaneous critic who doesn’t know anything about bboys or bboying idiotically associating the dance with gangsters. Thats all I get from this little tidbit.
Your original review itself was not only bland but uneducated showing little more than your ignorance towards the genre. ‘Bboy World’ was never made for the likes of you you, thus I’m glad you don’t like it. Bboying itself is an art form tailored for those who have dedication, appreciation, and love for the dance and the culture. For us it was like watching the highest peak of our dreams and seeing the real adversity that others have had to go through to get there.
What would you know about any of that? Nothing, you don’t dance with us, you’re not part of our culture, you’ve never even experienced our real culture (nor did you do so much as read a wikipedia article to get the most basic understanding of it before you spout off slander, and no, it has nothing to do with dancing for crowds in subways), yet you judge our dance and our culture as if you had done all of the aforementioned. In the end the only one this reflects poorly on is you, showing that you’re willing to jump to conclusions with no understanding of the topic.
So please continue to ignore your subway dancers and go about your ever important reviews (I bet someday you may even get published in something worthwhile if you are lucky.), meanwhile I’ll make sure to ignore articles with your name on them, instead opting to read critics who actually approach a negative review with a shred of intellect and research a topic before they pretend to know about it.
April 17th, 2008 at 7:46 am
Elitist — word of the week.
April 17th, 2008 at 10:20 am
@Tyler, it’s true I am not part of B-Boy culture and have never danced with you.
I have also never visited the Death Star nor slain anyone with a light saber. Yet I managed to like “Star Wars.”
Also, Tyler, please note that I did not call the performers in “Planet B-Boy” gangsters. I called them gangstas. Gangsters are scary. Gangstas are ridiculous.
April 17th, 2008 at 11:49 am
@Benson, I assume you’re a young guy. You’re probably a smart person. You’re probably more talented and interesting than 90 percent of the population. Evidently your feelings are hurt, so I’ll be kind instead of snarky for a moment.
When you write a book, make a film, paint a painting or even run a blog or write movie reviews, you are placing yourself in the public arena and you are going to take criticism. You just have to learn to deal with it because there is nothing you can do about it. It’s like being caught in the rain. In time, possibly, you will be amused by it. It isn’t personal.
Being more talented than 90 percent of the public doesn’t mean very much when you ask people to spend their time and/or money on your film. The problem with “Planet B-Boy” is you did nothing to make an esoteric subculture interesting to a general audience. You didn’t get your “cast” to speak in anything other than cliches. You didn’t make us care about who won the competition since all of the teams seemed composed of more or less interchangeable characters. Your film is completely earnest and humorless.
If you (and Tyler) watch “The King of Kong,” you will find that a documentary about a subculture (playing championship-level Donkey Kong) that interests nobody but a few eccentrics can be fascinating, suspenseful and hilarious in the hands of a skillful director.
It is not my job, as a viewer, to immerse myself in B-Boy culture. It is your job, as a director, to make me care about what’s happening in your film. My job is to alert (or warn) the public that a given film is (or is not) worth their time and money. My employer is the audience. I am a consumer advocate. You are the corporation putting out product.
You respond to legitimate, though harsh, criticism by claiming it is illegitimate. You fire back with ad-hominem epithets (”a**hole,” “racist”). These do not have the effect of accomplishing anything except to make you look foolish. This is why publicists tell filmmakers to ignore critics. Ask your publicist.
I wish you better luck with your next project. Or, not luck, exactly; I hope you learn to make better films.
April 17th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
Its amazing these bboys are so insecure and respond so violently to criticism. Is it because deep down in their hearts they know what they are doing is totally worthless.
The spirited response by these bboys to your c-column Kyle is an obvious rreflection of their sself-awareness that they are not really cconstructive members of society and are probably lazy crack addicts looking for a handout in life.
April 17th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
Kyle, I thought your response to Benson was spot on. It’s what I was thinking but was too lazy (read “untalented”) to set out in words.
The comparison to King of Kong was perfect. I just watched it recently and thought it was wonderful, even though I care less than nothing for the game.
April 17th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
Spot on!
April 17th, 2008 at 4:56 pm
Hey Kyle,
First off I’m glad to see that the thread that I started made your “Hate Mail of the Week,†however I’m curious as to how you stumbled upon Bboy.org in the first place. I never actually planned to send you any kind of hate-mail or anything because I know that you probably consider angry people sending you hate-mail over the internet a perk to your job, and probably puts a smile on your face to write back and know that you made the people even more annoyed. However since you honored my “Elitist s***head†remark with a blog, I think at least owe you a response.
At first when I read your review of Planet Bboy along with many others I just assumed that you were a silver spoon, Yale Graduate who lived such a white and sheltered life that you couldn’t even be in the same room as a black sharpie. I was reading through your other “Hate-Mails of the Week†(I wanted to see how my thread stacked up), and I came across your one about “Stop Loss,†and found out that you apparently had served in the military. This came as an initial shock, and while your reason for serving was not stated, it definitely made the point that had you been sheltered, you certainly weren’t now. As I was reading about how you, coming from a very liberal and northeastern background, learned to tolerate and understand the point of view of “extremely conservative, Reaganite, pro-military, God-fearing Georgians and Texans,†it struck me as odd that you would cast aside a different culture so easily even after getting an hour and a half long taste of it. Now of course no critic gets paid to be nice, and the more brutal and cutting the remarks on a movie, the more people will end up listening to your point of view. Now maybe, like you said in your response to him, Benson didn’t do a good enough job of convincing you the importance of this culture. However, anyone who watched that movie obviously knows that the $3000 total prize money has literally nothing to do with the competition, and all those crews would do whatever it takes to get to Germany and perform. And I KNOW that you know that Planet Bboy was a limited release documentary, so of course its box office numbers are going to be low.
So my question is this: Is it simply that you get paid to be scathing, and if the documentary goes down, the culture goes down with it? Or after watching that movie do you really think that Bboying, and by extension the Real Hip-hop culture which promotes peace, love, unity, and having fun, is simply about being a gangsta wannabe and trying to get into some 50-cent video?
April 17th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
I loved “King of Kong” too, but it seems like much of it was put together in a way that makes Michael Moore look like a bastion of honesty and integrity:
http://tinyurl.com/2pdux5
April 17th, 2008 at 5:56 pm
@Jack
You call that violent? You must live in a box because that’s just how we decide to defend ourselves against wrong opinions based on media based information. And if you’re lookin at Dusty Somers comment… I am more than sure it’s something called “sarcasm” cuz I really doubt he will go out and burn every book this guy will ever make.
You’re right, maybe we should just drop out the things we like to do like maybe extracurricular activities? In what values do you look at this as something completely worthless? What point makes a DANCE worthless? Yeah from what you’re saying, you think we should drop out everything that has apparently no usefulness in society. Why not drop all dances, music, life styles, and more…? You have completely failed at the meaning of life, and I’m not even joking. You think everything in life is just to contribute to society? Come back when you get what an artform and dance is suppose to serve as… There are many that take this as a hobby or activity they just like to do, and then there are others that embrace it to its full potential just like how an artist would with painting.
When you look at those in NY just dancing there for money… can you blame them for using a talent to try to survive? Hopefully you have noticed that not everyone has the chance to go far and make it big, and those guys are just trying to make a living with what they got.
There are people who bboy for fun, there are those who bboy for money and to survive, and there are those that bboy as lifestyle. You wanna tell me that they are worthless? YOU are the worthless one if you can not see this is what they enjoy and love to do. They got a job like no other and that’s what are doing right now.
April 17th, 2008 at 6:53 pm
Galton, I just checked that site, and the comments by WAlter Day that he cites. Didn’t have time to go through it exhaustively, but they leave some really important stuff unaddressed, such as why Mitchell’s tape was at Funspot, and why it was accepted there in its questionable condition, no questions asked. I also see no mention of Murscek’s eventual resignation based on the Funspot events. Quite a few of Jason Scott’s points seem quite inconsequential, and he’s clearly got an axe to grind. And Weibe really does come across as very decent guy. And there clearly is a lot of unhealthy hero worship among some of the gamers of Mitchell, and he was definitely too close to the regulators for comfort, and Howard Day has lots of reasons to bend over backward explaining himself, since he really did not come out looking very good, and so on and so forth. So I’m not really convinced.
April 17th, 2008 at 9:11 pm
It’s interesting that you compare a real thing (Bboying) to a fake thing (Star Wars). I understand that you wish to review a movie and not get involved in the culture, but your review can easily be understood as an attack on Bboying itself. Just because you don’t understand it doesn’t make it bad. Your opinion is no important than any else’s, you just happen to say it louder. For that matter neither is mine but I’ll put it here anyways.
April 17th, 2008 at 9:30 pm
Mr. Kyle Smith,
This review and criticism appears to have turned into a frenzy of mudslinging, with both sides doing little to respect the other. I expect a bit of immaturity from anonymous forum members that get a bit overexcited, but I expected more maturity from a prestigious film critic writing for such a well-known newspaper as the Washington Post.
I take no offense to the criticism which you present to the film “Planet B-Boy,” that being that you found little substance to the plot or character development. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and due to the fact that I have not seen the movie, I can make no judgment as to whether or not this is an accurate analysis. What I do find to be quite disheartening is the fact that you go beyond criticizing the film to criticizing the breakdancing community in general.
You begin this unnecessary criticism by saying that watching breakdancing for five minutes is a waste of your time. This is completely irrelevant to the movie or the criticism of said movie, and merely serves to insult those who truly enjoy and value bboying. Next, you insult the fact that the prize money awarded in the “Battle of the Year” is a rather meager sum. The people participating in this event, I would estimate, do not participate because they want prize money, but because bboying is something they love to do and put their heart into. You move on to insult the intellect of these dancers. I myself bboy, and while I am not old enough to claim to be as much of an intellectual as you (I’m only 17), I did manage to get a perfect SAT score and graduate at the top of my class, while being a bboy. Furthermore, there are bboy crews at many of the top colleges and universities. Finally, you conclude your article with the assertion that these individuals are working to become the “semi-visible backup dancers in music videos.” These individuals are dancing because they love doing it, not because they want to make a lot of money with a successful career in bboying. I do not claim that you need to research bboying before you review this film, nor that you write a good review of a movie you did not particularly like. I merely ask that you do not write a review that insults a culture you do not understand. It does not even bother me overmuch that you insulted the film, as this is a film criticism. But that you take the time (what appears to be almost half of your article) to insult bboys is what I find quite offensive. You then respond to the “hate mail” by calling the people of the culture ridiculous. I expect someone who is in as respected a position as yourself to be above insulting your critics.
In conclusion, I merely could not keep quiet about this battle of insults, which is equally immature on both sides. I am disgusted by the fact that you were the first one to start the mudslinging, and quite disappointed by the lack of maturity from others. However, it is a little less to expect a single, respectable individual such as yourself to be mature than to expect not a one of the thousands of members of bboy.org to respond impolitely. The fact that many of those thousands did not respond with anger or disrespect leads me to respect that community much more than the hate of a few.
Anonymous
April 18th, 2008 at 2:38 am
Dearest Kyle, again I have no problem with your review of my film. I have enough good reviews from other, more notable critics. I called you an a**hole based on your response to a small forum post by a group of b-boys that criticized your review of my film. It’s funny how you think that I look foolish after what you wrote to start this thread.
You respond to legitimate, though harsh, criticism by claiming b-boys are illiterate, and trying to speak in some sort of ad hoc b-boy language. These do not have the effect of accomplishing anything except to make you look foolish. This is why newspaper editors tell critics to ignore readers opinions. Ask your editor.
I wish you better luck with your next review. Or, not luck, exactly; I hope you learn to write better reviews, and not take the publics response to heart.
April 18th, 2008 at 3:31 am
jack wrote:
“Its amazing these bboys are so insecure and respond so violently to criticism. Is it because deep down in their hearts they know what they are doing is totally worthless.
The spirited response by these bboys to your c-column Kyle is an obvious rreflection of their sself-awareness that they are not really cconstructive members of society and are probably lazy crack addicts looking for a handout in life.”
Jack, are you like Kyle’s darker alter ego? Cause you’re insights are so spot on and poignant that it’s obvious that you’ve really done your research on this culture…I can see why you’re such a fan of Kyle’s work…that is if you’re not Kyle…
April 18th, 2008 at 11:53 am
Kyle,
Your review and comments speak volumes. It’s hard to take anything that you write to heart due to the fact that you work for a rag like the Post. I’ve always found your “POV†a bit strange and off kilter. You’ve seemed to enjoy making an ass out of yourself. What are the qualifications to being a critic? How many films have you directed? When was the last time you had to sell a concept and raise money to make it come to life? Getting a free ticket and sitting in a chair watching a film while you slob yourself up with popcorn and goobers and take notes is a hard job but I guess people like you are the ones that need to do it.
Sadly, you missed the beat on this movie. Your comments show that you’re culturally inept and that is further showcased in your simple writing style (style could be over reaching, but I’ll let it slide). In fact, being a critic myself, I’ve read better reviews on the back of a box of tampons.
Benson’s movie showcases a subculture that has depth and meaning. It also projects a positive message. The flick is SO easy to digest an old man like yourself should be able to swallow it, and I would think you would be accustom to swallowing by now, working for the post.
The bboy’s show that they know how to rise above and you should try to do the same. You need an open mind, an open heart, a little sensibility and a cleaver spin on the comments that you carelessly inflict on the world. If you listen, you can hear the beat. It’s ok to spin and dance, Kyle, rather than trying to act like some form of arm chair messiah with a holier than thou opinion exposing your lack of rhythm and revealing your true dept which is about as deep as an ashtray, when you’re looking at something you think is “out of the boxâ€Â.
On a last note, not only are you “deaf†but obviously blind as well. Benson’s movie is shot wonderfully. If has flow and continuity (do you understand what that is? Clearly not, but I hope so).
Kyle, I guess my main point to my rant above is that you’re deaf, dumb and blind.
Toasting your demise,
~j~
April 18th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
@ Kyle:
It is one thing to do your job as a critic and give your view of a movie as is the basis of your job. It is completely something in and of itself to take a step further to insult so any people using such a limited knowledge. And this is not only limited to your response to Planet B-boy this also pertains to other film reviews such as the one you posted for Juno. Reviewing a film for its style, plot, and character development (or lack thereof) is something to be expected. But to take the step further to the point of insulting individual cultures/subcultures such as Bboys and hipsters degrades yourself by giving a reader the thought of a biased critic. Think about it. How good of a review can a person expect when the critic already thinks that bboys are just subway peformers “not worth 5 minutes” of your precious time and have such a negative view of them off the back. And I personally take offense to the semi invisible comment as well as the semiliteret comment because I bboy and i am only 16 yet i have a better venacular than half of your adult readers. Also group generalizing such as calling bboys a “bunch of Korean and Japanese gangsta group dancers” is very insulting as well. There are many different cultures that bboy. I’m from Hawaii, a native Hawaiian mixed with many other nationalities yet I am neither Japanese or Korean. Please before your next review make sure you don’t already have a biased opinion before watching because if you do, just don’t watch at all.
P.S. We speak normal English none of that “yo dawg” stuff.
And as for you jack:
You say that we respond violently to the negative critiques but YOU do not KNOW any of us. We joke around on the forums and the so called violent remarks is our way of expressing anger. You have to admit that even you show your anger in violentcomments that can be worse than ours. And as for the whole worthless thing goes, why are you spending the time and effort to look at our posts to judge when you are leading such a productive life. I do have a question tho, do you stutter? (if you hadn’t caught it i was being sarcastic and its a joke)
April 18th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
I have to say, the best part of this whole thing has been reading the comments by the director. I don’t know where he got the idea that the New York Post is some kind of supermarket tabloid.
All of the responses, here and on their website, have been the funniest thing I’ve read in ages. I can’t decide which part is the most amusing though: the accusation of racism, the accusation that Jack is actually Kyle or this line: “I bet someday you may even get published in something worthwhile if you are lucky.”
Absolutely hilarious.
April 18th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
@Benson
You know its pretty cool that you’re a director but if you make a crappy movie then you make a crappy movie. You should stop blaming everyone else because your work wasn’t good, how about you start blaming yourself first and come out with something that is higher quality.
@Kevin
Artists? Call yourselves whatever you guys want but there’s a reason why you guys are only, and probably will be for a long period of time, a minute segment of the population.
April 18th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
I always considered myself something of an auteur, a hidden talent of course, working a mindless though lucrative career in finance. So I quit my job and mortgaged my house and lost my wife and perfect children pursuing my dream of filmmaking.
It didn’t have to be like this, not really, but the truth is I didn’t have talent and nobody would tell me. I shot my own movie and financed what I couldn’t borrow from friends and family who don’t speak to me now.
I made a movie about something I care about deeply, the subculture of stacking fruit. I met many interesting fruit stackers who rise early in the morning to arrange the new shipments of produce in geometric patterns for display at A&P’s and Shop-Rites.
After reading Kyle’s review of this BBoy film and his surgical evisceration of its director here, I took over 230 hours of footage and burned it, setting my house and my housecat afire in the process. I realize my efforts cannot withstand the valid critique that I did not make viewers care about fruit-stacking.
I lost everything–every thing, even FluffPuff–but I still consider it a lesson learned cheaply.
April 18th, 2008 at 5:17 pm
“@Kevin
Artists? Call yourselves whatever you guys want but there’s a reason why you guys are only, and probably will be for a long period of time, a minute segment of the population.”
Good observation…it’s an extremely difficult art form that takes years to even become remotely competent in and most do drop out after a short time.
Same as any other dancer or other skilled artisan.
April 18th, 2008 at 6:12 pm
“jack Says: Artists? Call yourselves whatever you guys want but there’s a reason why you guys are only, and probably will be for a long period of time, a minute segment of the population.”
yes we are a minute segment of the population whats your point?? you are part of a minute group that hates bboying.
besides there are many other occupations that have less total population then bboys.
April 18th, 2008 at 6:14 pm
I find it particularly notable that this review appears in the very same publication that denied running Martha Cooper’s photos of b-boys in Washington Heights, back in 1979. For those of you who don’t know, Cooper kept pursuing this story, and with dance historian Sally Banes, published the first article about b-boying in the Village Voice in 1981.
I wouldn’t give Mr. Smith the title of elitist. Rather, I would say that he’s a non-critic-slash-ignorant-hater. If box office gross is indicative of what’s important, interesting, or relevant to our society, then apparently we only value lessons to be learned from stories about sinking ships, siths and their drama-laden spawn, fake green ogres, and spider-human hybrids.
Most importantly, this review is exemplary of how our alienated (in the Marxist definition of the word) our society has become. It’s a reflection of the view that “if it don’t make money, it ain’t worth payin’ attention to.”
To know that Mr. Smith’s opinion is still out there and published is also important, because it’s the viewpoint that Benson, and those of us in academia researching and publishing about hip-hop culture, are working against. The only way to get a point across is to have a hegemonic viewpoint to counter. This idea is the basis of the fields of comparative literature and all cultural and racial studies (ex. Edward Said’s Orientalism, Frantz Fanon’s Black Skin, White Masks, or Jean-Paul Sartre’s The Anti-Semite and the Jew).
Lastly, I’d just like to contextualize how conversation between artist and critic has a potential to have significant dialogue. There have been a couple moments in dance history when critics creatively wrote effective criticism. In 1957, modern dance choreographer Paul Taylor deconstructed movement to the point where he did nothing onstage for 7 minutes, so NY Times reviewer Louis Horst answered by running 7 inches of blank space as the review. In 1995, Arlene Croce reviewed Bill T. Jones’ still/here for the New Yorker, and started off by saying that she hadn’t seen it and didn’t plan on seeing it. This action stirred up valuable discourse about victim art.
Mr. Smith’s review for the Post is basically the antithesis of these examples. It’s also why the Post is not regarded as a relevant source for artistic criticism. But any New Yorker could have told you that the Post is only good for reading sensationalized sound bytes of infotainment while riding the subway.
So let Kyle Smith be what he is: an ignorant reviewer with biased opinions who will probably leverage all these hits on his review for a pay-raise. There are sundry other well-regarded sources to get the truth on Planet B-Boy, breaking, and hip-hop culture. Informed, educated people who have actually seen the film already know the truth.
MiRi Park aka b-girl Seoulsonyk
MA American Studies, Columbia University
Adjunct Faculty, NYU Steinhardt School of Education
April 19th, 2008 at 12:13 am
“B-Boys: it’s on, yo! Come and sho yo mad skillz in front of my crib.”
Seriously, that should read “…in front my crib, (poorly spelled expletive).”
Bcuz, yanno, that’s how weez roll, dontchano.
“It’s also why the Post is not regarded as a relevant source for artistic criticism.”
Alternative version: The Post is correct about what some misinformed miscreant believes-until-it-hurts is Art. That is, it really isn’t Art. It may be expression of some sort, but so is writing this comment.
By the way, it fascinates me how you gleefully leapt from “consensus is Art (or criticism thereof)” to “consensus cannot possibly be Art (or criticism thereof)”. Likely, your Marxist inclinations are confusing you. That is, box office does not matter (though it is, indeed, a pretty good indicator of what’s readily acceptable by The People), but critical acclaim by self-appointed critics is.
Nah, I won’t call you an elitist either. Promise.
April 20th, 2008 at 12:04 am
Damn Kyle, looks like you were put in your place.
April 22nd, 2008 at 1:49 am
The movie flew right over Kyle’s head. In fact it flew about 30,00 feet over. Our artform (yes, I’m a dancer) and Kyle’s misconception of what we do have nothing to do with one another. Who is at fault though? Benson had the platform and failed to deliver the soul of what we do to at least one film critic.
I got it. I totally understood the passion these dancer’s have. I totally got how liberating yet thankless b-boying or any other dance is for that matter. I wonder though if I got the message because I am a dancer and can relate deeply.
Kyle left the movie with the same really piss poor notions of b-boying that he had coming into the movie. He took this and wrapped it in some funny (or at least trying to be) verbage and voila! You have your abrasive and disparaging review chock full of ignorance of our dance and culture.
Yea he doesn’t know shit about us, disrespects our passion, our intellect, and calls us gangstas! Haha. I think if he ever went to a jam he’d change his mind in less than five minutes.
Benson, you carry the unenviable task of delivering the heart and soul of our culture to the mass so they understand and respect our passion. And FYI I think you’ve done better by far than any have thus far. But just like b-boy practice you’ve gotta strive to improve.
June 17th, 2008 at 9:52 pm
Kyle you are just like half-a-million youtube members. All you do is flame behind the safety of your computer. Next time try critiquing in front of next year’s BOTY. Of course, all the b-boys know that you won’t take that challenge, but hey it was worth a shot right?
P.S.: I never knew you could compare lightsabers with dancing. I guess the saying “oranges and apples” flew past your head. C’mon…your 50+? You can do better than that.